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Ravin
11-25-2003, 03:16 PM
what do you guys do when you hear a band you dont like ?

i think there are differnt types of listeners, if you get me

some people go to shows with an open mind
and other go to hear a certain "style" or "genre"
so, mixed shows can be a bit much for the listener sometimes

i usually try to stay openminded, and atleast sit through one or two songs before going to the merch stand or bathroom, if im HATING the band on stage
if they keep my interest, by music or stage presence or both, i stay for the whole set and clap/cheer, etc ....

but i just thinking about how its hard for people to check out new music they've never heard
and see a band they dont particularly like ... or find boring on stage
like seeing a hardcore band open up for a stone temple pilots croud or versa vica, yah know ?

i usually try to atleast clap if they seem really into their shit ... or give it an honest effort ..
as im sure it can be rough on some bands with a differnt sound, on a concert bill with mixed styles, yah know ?

so, its something ive been thinking about ... as i think we'll be gigging soon ... and well ... to say im COMPLETELY not bothered by the crouds reaction, would be a lie ... but im more concerned with us pulling off our songs & sound ... quality like ... but ... i dunno dealing with drunk people and closed minded music listeners taht want to hear pantera covers or pop radio bullshit ... is a bit .. blugh ... and i remember when i saw limp bizkit ($3 stylie) open for faith no more ... and he was yellin his BS at the croud and they were shouting at him ... and it was a big mess ..
so, i was thinking about that and ... like, bands ive seen that i didnt like ... but had mad respect for them for trying .. yah know ?

what do you guys do when you hear a band you aint thrilled about ? do you throw stuff ? leave ? clap anyways ? what ?

cat
11-25-2003, 03:26 PM
if im seeing a band i dont know live, it depends on the venue
if i see a band i dont know and its in a large venue, unless they're really special and have some shocking stage presence, i'll get bored and be in the bar before the first song is over

whereas if its somewhere smaller and more intimate, its easier to get blown away, of all bands ive seen and heard for the first time and fallen for, its been in miniscule venues.

if i dont like em, i leave, go to the bar have a chat with people, have a drink, wait till someone i like is on the stage
i dont abuse the bands themselves, thats just mean.

Ravin
11-25-2003, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by cat

whereas if its somewhere smaller and more intimate, its easier to get blown away, of all bands ive seen and heard for the first time and fallen for, its been in miniscule venues.

i dont abuse the bands themselves, thats just mean.

thats a good point, i didnt think of that
and yeah, yelling & throwing, im not with
mean
and the topic is close to heart so ... yeah

darren_s
11-25-2003, 03:39 PM
I ALWAYS clap, even if I dislike a band.

Mainly because it takes balls to get up and do your thing, and I show appreciation of that.

If I don't like a band I tend to just get bored, look at the merch, go to the bar, text someone or whatever.

I think it also depends like Cat said on the venue, but also what mood you're in.

If you're up for a gig you're more likely to enjoy the support..

cat
11-25-2003, 03:40 PM
bands need to be as prepared to take shit as the audience needs to be able to be patient and courteous

if bands can take the shit thats thrown at them then they'll get far more respect than bands who sulk and pout and march off the stage

i was in the middle of a physical fight on the barrier of a foos show once
because everyone took a strong disliking to ...and you will know us by the trail of dead
i was young at the time i knew no better than to join in
but the guitarist jumped off the stage and waded in to the middle of it
i think he actually enjoyed it
fair play to em innit!

and then theres the infamous appearance of Daphne & Celeste at Reading Festival
they had one of the biggest crowds on the main stage
they only left the stage because their management didnt want them getting hurt by all the flying vegetables
but at the end of the day, they themselves had a kickass time! they loved it. and all the abusers were talkin about it for the rest of the weekend.

Ravin
11-25-2003, 03:48 PM
thats really a good point ....
and helpful
ive never thought of that
i mean, i guess yah have to laugh about it and not get all that serious about it, otherwise it could make the guys in the band pissed and nuts ... after a bit
cuz playin to new people & on stage ... i spose you have to love it ... because you love bein there & doin it .. otherwise ,... i can see where it'd get easy for the band to loose focus on why they are there ... in the first place
how do you prepair for a thing like that though ? mentally, phych yourself out, i guess
i dunno
and i spose theres ALWAYS gonna be people that are close minded and not in the mood at shows ...
but i think there are a few more people that are down with checkin out new things, at shows

sparky
11-25-2003, 04:32 PM
nice interesting topic to discuss
I thought of lostprophets at deconstruction when narrow minded people were mentioned, and how people will hurl abuse
Everyone questioned them playin the festival before, and talk was theyd gettin bottled and totalled on stage
Of course they take it really well, and got a good 3000 people or so moshing and dancing, whilst putting on a fun show to watch
"This song is called lostprophets can fuck off because theyre not punk enough."
YET the magazines and media themselves seem to concentrate on the negative side of events like this, hence in articles you get lines like "labelled a boy band, bottled at Deconstruction, is it over for blah blah"

MeMaby
11-25-2003, 04:43 PM
if i'm not enjoying a band i'll go stand at the back. i won't leave unless they're absolutely god awful. and no matter what i always clap. regardless of what i think there is rude and there's polite. i don't see the point in being blatantly rude to someone who's just trying to give me some harmless entertainment.

Johnny Mac
11-26-2003, 03:18 AM
If i'm not enjoying a band i'll go to the bar and maybe watch or listen to them a bit from there....

I would NEVER boo or heckle a band though, as Darren says, it take balls to go up there and do that. I have seen some shit bands though.......

I think a lot of bands need more stage prescence and need to interact with the crowd more in order to get a better reaction. Obviously though, if someone is up there shitting it playing songs... the last thing they want is to talk to the expressionless faces in front of them.....

but yeah..... go to the bar if you don't like em

Or as Ravin says... he goes to the bathroom.... hmmmmm.... for the whole set?

Lee
11-26-2003, 03:33 AM
as darren said always clap
but thats only if i have to watch them
normally if its a new band we'll sit back and if things sound good we'll watch them but normally time is spent in the bar

as for you saying about you gigging and being effected by the crowd, you dont really. ive played gigs to the equvilant of bricks people just refused to like us but that encourages to you to give your all.
because you know the fuckers have to sit through your set so why not give your heart and let them judge you on that

Raiden
11-26-2003, 05:17 AM
yea I always clap even if the band sucks ultimately. The ONLY time i ever boo'd was when I was waiting for Sevendust to come on and for some odd ridiculous reason they put the late 90's band Gravity Kills on.

People were seriously yelling 'wtf??!!?' ...cuz we thought it seemed like a big time warp happened ..bad booking idea..and thats the only time I'd actually Boo. I always applaud any band getting up there...sucking or not.

I persoanlly yelled that time because frankly i wasnt planning on hearing a 90's band open up at a metal gig..i was very very bored and playing Snake on my cellphone till they went off stage. apart from that..id never hissed or yelled at a band lol...shit if I was up there..and if my band blowed id like them to atleast clap and then we'd fuck right off.

Ive seen ALOT OF shit bands but you give them the applause and you never have to hear from them again. It's just poltics. People who actually BOO loudly are usually the fat fucks in the pit waiting for some music to allow them to beat the shit out of someone really.

booing is gay anyways. but yea. as everyone said...applauding is polite...whatevers your dealio.

-rosie-
11-26-2003, 08:08 AM
I'm usually pretty open to hearing new bands so I usually listen to them, even if they are shit. However, if they're absolutely awful then I'll just go to the bar or towards the back or whatever and chat with people.

I would never heckle though because I know how scared I'd be if that was me on stage, and I always feel sorry for bands that get abuse hurled at them.... people should just be more tolerant.

raphael_is_cool
11-26-2003, 08:11 AM
I went to see Reel Big Fish and supporting them were Wilt and King Prawn. Wilt were good, upbeat and funny whereas King Prawn sucked immensely. They thought they could be cool by promoting weed (or 'shit' as they called it) and the bass player who was an Osama look-a-like kept going on about the 'east end massive'. They were terrible, up themselves and the songs all sounded the same and sucked. Having said that I didn't boo or anything, couldn't go anywhere it was so packed and so I just stood around with my friends, ignoring them and messed about

Also, our band played our 1st gig back in august, we got the same sort of reaction from people (just standing still, nodding heads) and these were friends of the guitarist so they were there to support us. They gave use some 'woo!'s and clapped after every song, which was nice. We messed up (I say 'we' when I mean the other 2, the guitarist and drummer) a couple of times and had to stop that was when a couple of people heckled (stuff like 'play the fucking song!' or 'come on! We'll be here all night') and that really shook me (I'm usually quite shy and I'm the frontman and bass player) but we got on okay and learnt a lot from it (like, 'never play a song you learnt the day before' and 'the guitarist has a terrible memory')

I'm looking forward to playing again and will be more confident next time

Sorry if that was long, hope it helped

skooks
11-26-2003, 10:35 AM
I go to an awful lot of shows, both local and a fair few miles away so I often get to see new bands.
I'm always up for listening to new music so I always approach a gig with an open mind.
I try not to listen to my friends opinions or media whispers because I'm quite capable of developing my own opinion.

If I thought a band sucked I wouldn't boo or anything. I'd probably have a chuckle and a quiet word with my friends but that's just between friends. At the end of the day I still respect bands for doing what they do, because anything they do is a hundred times better than any effort I could make.
If I dislike a band that much I usually go and find something else to do for a while anyway.

Lee
11-26-2003, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by skooks
I try not to listen to my friends opinions or media whispers because I'm quite capable of developing my own opinion.


ever been to a show with matt? well you have but you been there when there's a band playing you like and he doesnt?
jesus its like they raped his mum.
friends can play a bit part in first impressions of a band i think

Stephen
11-26-2003, 12:59 PM
I was just thinkin.... certain singers say when promoting an album "its got something for everyone.." but does that mean everyone will like only one song... hmm

Vomit
11-26-2003, 01:22 PM
If I don't like a band, I won't clap. What is the point in being nice about it? I think it's far more polite to be honest. Maybe that way the band will book more appropriately. Everyone wins.

I wouldn't, however, heckle a band. Like people say, it takes balls...

-rosie-
11-26-2003, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by skooks
I'm always up for listening to new music so I always approach a gig with an open mind.
I try not to listen to my friends opinions or media whispers because I'm quite capable of developing my own opinion.

Yup, even if I don't particularly like a band on record, it doesn't mean I won't go and see them live because they might surprise me and be brilliant.

For instance, I went to see The Thrills last month with a load of mates because it was someone's birthday. I was expecting them to be really boring live because I don't like them on cd, but I was pleasantly surprised and they were actually damn good! But, music usually sounds better live than on cd anyway, because it's so much more intense and you can actually feel the songs and the emotions more.

:keke:

Kimie
11-28-2003, 06:31 AM
If im going to see a band and they turn out not too good or like the support bands arnt very good then i listen to them anyway. I remember talking about this with Jens friend Lauren at the Brum gig. I try to look interested and i give them my time even if i don't like it because there putting there soul into it and i dont want to offend them. I dislike all the catcalls, so you don't like them? so what?

I do go to local shows (well i used to) and all of them except like spunge i hadn't heard there stuff and some were good some wern't but i went with an open mind and i stayed for the duration even if i just ended up chatting with friends because you know we all start somewhere and there are bound to be people who are enjoying the band so im not going to ruin it for them. Plus i feel sorry for bands if people shout at them etc if you don't like it then just shut up and do something else.